Florida: circumcision battle

flyguy

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Friends, Intact America has taken a strong stand to defend Chase Hironimus from the circumcision predators at Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital Foundation...
Here's the statement IA released a few minutes ago... "BREAKING NEWS:
Intact America has received a report from a concerned staff member of
Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital in Hollywood, Florida, saying that
Chase Hironimus (Nebus) is scheduled for a circumcision there on
Thursday, June 11. The physician who has been hired
to do the surgery is Gary Birken, MD. What can you do? (1) Post on the
hospital's Facebook page, demanding that they refuse to circumcise a
healthy child whose mother is vehemently opposed to the surgery, and
telling them that if they do, there will be both public relations and
legal consequences; (2) call the hospital 954-265-5933, and (similarly)
tell the risk-management department that there will be both legal and
reputational consequences if they circumcise the Hironimus (Nebus) boy;
(3) call the physician's office (954) 265-0072 and warn him that the
mother of the child is vehemently opposed to the circumcision, and that
to conduct medically unnecessary surgery under these circumstances is
both unethical and legally risky. SPREAD THE WORD, PLEASE!!"

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Quelle: Brother K facebook

Ein weiterer facebook link der Einrichtung:
https://www.facebook.com/JDCHospital

Da haben schon richtig viele Leute etwas geschrieben und schlechte Bewertungen hinterlassen, schön!

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http://www.phillyvoice.com/mother-reflect…s-circumcision/

HaWeHa

Auch hier kann geschmäht werden (noch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwy9bRMjCH4

R2D2

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"Our hospital is redefining the healthcare expierence for children and their families every day"

Der macht sich auch noch lustig über den Jungen...

flyguy

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Der macht sich auch noch lustig über den Jungen...

Da muss man die Gesundheitsversorgung ja zwangsläufig neu definieren, wenn man gesundes Gewebe ohne medizinische Indikation entfernt. In dem Krankenhaus werden die neugeborenen Jungen auch fixiert und beschnitten. Bestimmt ist es eines der Krankenhäuser, wo man unterzeichnen muss, dass das Baby NICHT beschnitten werden soll.
So much fail.

R2D2

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THE ARROGANCE OF THE CIRCUMCISION FACTORIES KNOWN AS HOSPITALS. Chase's Guardians has received the following message: "I work at JDCH and due to my position and job I have gotten to see a lot of what has been going on surrounding Chase's situation. I want to share what I know because I am so strongly against anyone so much as touching Chase with a ten foot pole. This is what I know - rumor or otherwise - and whether you share it with your followers or not is up to you.
-Chase's father has not actually met with Dr Birken. From what I understand from his scheduling nurses, they are being ushered in without needing to establish a new patient relationship. Thursday will be their first meeting.
-Dr Birken will cut Chase no matter what Chase says or does in office. I have worked with Dr Birken in his office before and he is a very no nonsense doctor who will do whatever he has to in order to get done what he feels should be done. He has pressured patients and parents into unnecessary or excessive procedures in the past and I have no doubt he will have Chase forcibly restrained and put under anesthesia without regard to Chase's medical history. Birken is NOT one of the more well loved doctors in our hospital system and that he has agreed to do this does not surprise me. You WILL NOT stop this by trying to reach out to Birken's office - but you WILL make a big difference through the hospital itself. If you can convince them that their general image will be tarnished or that they may face lawsuits they may bar Birken from taking Chase as a patient.
-Hospital administration is threatening staff that chooses to participate in any sort of walk out, protest, or refusal to come in/work with the patient. Nobody in Birken's office is allowed to call off sick on Thursday. They have said that they will place anyone who participates in any acknowledgement of Chase's procedure on leave or will outright fire them for insubordination and violation of HIPPA (because by refusing to come in, protesting, or refusing to work with Birken or Chase they are acknowledging that he is a patient who will be in that day - it is a VERY fine line but the hospital believes they are within their rights).
-There is talk of secretly rescheduling the procedure to TOMORROW (Wednesday, June 10) or even to Friday. A very good friend of mine is a float nurse that was in Birken's office yesterday and she said that one of the administrators is even considering having Birken be called to "emergency surgery" later today so that Chase can be circumcised, but I do not think this will happen.
-Regardless of when the procedure occurs the hospital will likely hire additional security detail and may also ask the police to be present all day on Thursday. This may mean additional risk for protesters, so those who do choose to protest should bring cameras and be prepared to be as open and obvious about being peaceful as possible.
-Currently the hospital is directing all questions about the case to the director of corporate communications, Kerting Baldwin - and that's only because if it's going to one person then all phone calls and emails can be systematically ignored if they are not "important". I have been told that comments on the Facebook page will likely start being deleted soon (within 24 hours) and that they may shut down commenting entirely.
-Despite discussing taking precautions, hospital administration does NOT think that there will be much to worry about on Thursday. They are PREPARING for the worst but I have personally heard one of the upper level admins say that they would be shocked if there were "more than one or two of those crazy, smelly hippie moms with misspelled signs whose kids are homeschooled and unvaccinated". That comment will probably stick with me forever. It was wrong on so many levels."

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flyguy

Anscheinend hat Chase seine Vorhaut noch. Der Druck auf das Krankenhaus war enorm. Ärzte und Anwälte (das Engagement ist echt super in USA- es wäre schön, wenn sich auch hier Ärzte und Anwälte organisieren würden und für unsere Sache eintreten) haben das Krankenhaus vor Konsequenzen gewarnt, falls die Beschneidung durchgeführt würde. Die Bewertungen des Krankenhauses auf der Facebook Seite strebten Richtung 1 Stern. Die Admins von JDCH haben die Bewertungsfunktion daraufhin deaktiviert, als die Bewertung bei 2,2 Sternen lag.
Intaktivisten/Organisationen die mir aufgefallen sind:
-Intact America
-Brother K
-Bloodstained men & friends
Hier mal einige der Ärzte/Anwälte (ich hab bestimmt noch welche vergessen):
-ARC Law (Peter Adler)
-Doctors Opposing Circumcision
-A. Daniel Vazquez (ffplaw)
Anscheinend haben manche auch ganz schön was riskiert, indem sie Patienteninformationen/Dokumente an Intaktivisten weitergeleitet haben.

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Yet a document sent to New Times by the anonymous source apparently shows that Chase is a patient at Joe DiMaggio's. The document, which cannot be verified but appears to be printed on hospital letterhead, shows Chase's apparent surgical history, weight, height and other medical information.

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"This also shows that Ms. Baldwin was indeed lying to you when she said Chase is not a patient," the anonymous source says via email. "But we all knew that."

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/hironimus…ospital-7038926

Last minute effort made to stop Florida boy’s circumcision

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/nati…ys-circu/nmbtM/

Aber das war gestern

Ist das Verbrechen schon passiert?

flyguy

Nein, angeblich nicht.

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*** BREAKING NEWS UPDATE *** Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital
CONFIRMS NO CHASE CIRCUMCISION THERE... "For the last few days, this
situation regarding a child in the middle of a circumcision debate has
been fraught with misinformation, misguided assumptions and malicious
intent by people seeking to defame the good name and reputation of our
hospital. Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital has gone on record to state
the child is not a patient of the hospital, any Memorial facility or the
doctor. We stand by that statement, and therefore the procedure in
question did not happen." ~JoeDiMaggio Hospital

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But, he said, the legal issues swirling around the strange case, are important. “This case involves a non-religious, non-medically necessary, purely cosmetic surgery on a nearly five-year-old boy who, along with his mother, doesn’t want the surgery to happen,” he said. “This case includes important issues of medical-legal ethics and patient rights potentially being violated if the surgery went forward.”

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/loca…t-happen/nmb9B/

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..the son should be able to make up his own mind when he comes of age..

So weit, so supergut!

Aber: "When parents disagree on the procedure" - warum nur dann?

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It wasn’t until I came to the United States that I encountered a circumcised penis. From my entirely unscientific survey undertaken over the course of a decade, I can’t figure out why Americans are so intent on discarding foreskins rather than teaching boys about hygiene and safe sex.

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My husband saw no reason his son would want to “look like Daddy,” which appears to be a remarkably common rationale for circumcising infants.

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..after viewing several performed with and without anesthetic, I agree with Dr. Steven Lerman, a genitourinary surgeon at University of California at Los Angeles’ medical center and a respected mohel, who believes that circumcision is an extremely painful procedure for infants and adults alike.

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How can we ever teach our male children about consent when the legal system has explicitly stated that a child does not have autonomy over his own body?

Und das bei Al Jazeera, Zeichen und Wunder!

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/…t-foreskin.html

flyguy

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So weit, so supergut!
Aber: "When parents disagree on the procedure" - warum nur dann?

Vielleicht weil es ein arabischer Nachrichtensender ist? Da würden die sich ja selber ins Bein schießen, wenn es nicht nur dann wäre.

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BTW, von wegen Harnwegsinfekte:

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The incidence of UTIs in intact infant males is 0.702%, slightly higher than the circumcised infant male incidence of 0.188%, but still very low. For perspective, the incidence of UTIs in female infants is 5%.

http://www.bellybelly.com.au/parenting/circ…arental-rights/

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der wird in Florida erst mal auf seinen Geisteszustand überprüft. Und muss sich regelmäßigen Drogentests unterziehen.
Und eine Art Pädagogik-Zwangskurs besuchen.
Aber unsere eiserne Kanzlerin hat ja auch schon was in die Richtung über die Mehrheit ihrer Untertanen gesagt (Komikernation).

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She is required to: undergo a mental health evaluation and finish all recommended treatment; submit to random drug testing; and check in with a probation officer once a month.

Der Samenspender (Vater finde ich da zu hochgestochen, so verhält sich kein wirklicher Vater):

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Instead his attorney read a letter to the court about the traumatic experience of being kept from his son...

Wie traumatisch das jetzt für das für Chase ist, jetzt schon zwei Monate von der Mutter, bei der er fünf Jahre lang aufgewachsen ist getrennt zu sein - kein Gedanke. Zerfließt vor Selbstmitleid. Pfui bah!

In Europa wäre das ein Fall für den europäischen Gerichtshof für Menschenrechte. Aber hier kann man sich solche unsittlichen Verträge über Fleisch eines Kindes kaum vorstellen.

Es ist halt das "Land der unbegrenzten Möglichkeiten" - da ist alles möglich!

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-bea…0716-story.html

flyguy

Heather scheint wohl nur noch ein Besuchsrecht zu bekommen. Sorgerecht nicht...

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*** UPDATE FROM CHASE CUSTODY HEARING *** COURTROOM WITNESS Carl Silverman
reports: "Nebus attorney calls intactivist groups "crazy". Later
glances back at me, saying that a representative of those groups is
present in the courtroom. This could be three more hours. Counsel
talking to judge in chambers now. Dispute over supervised vs.
Therapeutic supervised visitation by Heather.... Dennis and Heather in courtroom.... No testimony yet."

Quelle: Brother K, facebook

Mehr dürfte in Kürze bekannt werden.

flyguy

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-bea…0916-story.html

wirklich lächerlich...

flyguy

AN INFORMED SOURCE REPORTS:"Heather has to pay the full cost of these supervised visits, including the hourly rate of the police officer and anyone else who attends, as well as the cost of the space. It could run $300 per visit, money she desperately does not have."
-Brother K, facebook

R2D2

Wir brauchen hier auch einen dislike button. Es ist echt nicht zu glauben.

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Die arme Frau soll offensichtlich vollständig fertiggemacht werden.

Sie hat es gewagt, ein "amerikanisches" Nationalheilgtum in Zweifel zu ziehen.

Das Kindeswohl von Chase ist eh längst auf der Strecke geblieben. Armer Junge!

Und die sonst so aktiven US-Feministinnen Immer noch auf Tauchstation? Ach ja, es geht ja auch um ein "Frauenrecht". Das "Recht" alleinerziehender Mütter, ihre Söhne verstümmeln zu lassen. Und - Frauen. bzw. Mädchen kommen ja nicht zu Schaden!

Wer noch in Florida Urlaub macht, dem ist nicht zu helfen.

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Es kann auch ganz anders herum laufen. Mutter will die BGM, Vater geht gerichtlich dagegen vor, Sohn bleibt intakt. Sogar in den USA.

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"My mother and her side of the family really wanted to get [the procedure] done—so much so, apparently, that they were threatening to get it done behind my father's back," Hansen says. "My father was very adamant and very passionate about letting me keep my whole and unaltered body. From what I understand, he actually put out a court-ordered cease and desist for every pediatrician in the state."

Und die gute Nachricht des Tages:

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Male circumcision rates in Utah decline as parents reconsider the procedure

http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/circumcis…ent?oid=2986297

Florida: circumcision battle

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