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Flyer Genital Autonomy
Flyer Genital Autonomy
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coole Reaktion. Sein Immigrationshintergrund hat da womöglich miteingespielt. Bei einem gebürtigen Israeli könnte dies, grade unter den Kameraden, vielleicht doch anders aussehen.Sein Kommandeur rief ihn extra an und teilte ihm mit, er brauche sich nicht zu genieren, weil er intakt sei.
Josc schrieb:
Bei einem gebürtigen Israeli könnte dies, grade unter den Kameraden, vielleicht doch anders aussehen.
ReutersAn Israeli woman appealed to the Supreme Court on Wednesday against a rabbinical ruling that ordered her to circumcise her one-year-old son, the Justice Ministry said, in the first case of its kind.
Orly Vilnai: It’s a matter of religion versus an invasive intervention in the body of a human being
Avigdor Feldman: A matter that complicated was not addressed yet by the courts. Because you have here three parties: The mother who is adamant not to circumcise, the father who wants to circumcise, and let’s presume that he acts in good faith and not using the issue as a weapon in the divorce battle, and you have a baby lying in his crib, unaware ….
Guy Meroz: There is one more thing we didn’t discuss yet. A day will come when this boy will be 13 or 18 years old, and he will be able to make a decision that he wants to get circumcised, but this boy will never be able to choose otherwise if it is done now.
Avigdor Feldman: True.
Orly Vilnay (addressing Guy Meroz): When you circumcised your two sons, did you ask them?
Guy Meroz: No, that’s exactly the point I’m making.
Avigdor Feldman: So, things can develop in such a way that the whole question of circumcision will be examined, I mean, people, our society today is very pluralistic, we’re not talking about the society that was here in the 1950’s and the 1960’s, so people will begin to ask themselves why are we circumcising in the first place, what is this thing.
Guy Meroz: It’s about time. But, you know, there are the struggles in Germany…
Avigdor Feldman: Exactly. The rabbis, by the way, wrote in their verdict: “We shall not join the nations of the world who carry out actions against circumcision.” I guess the High Court of Justice will issue an interim order, they will not force her to circumcise until a hearing will take place. What will the decision be, it’s hard to tell.
A message from Elinor:
Dear supporters - Shalom
As most of you already know, the latest on the Brit Milah case is as follows:
An appeal has been filed to The High Court of Justice last Wednesday, and yesterday an interim injunction was issued regarding the ruling of the rabbinical court. I finally can breath a little. No doubt these are nerve wracking days. It’s not easy at all. I recall that moment on Sunday when I first posted about this case with tears in my eyes so I couldn't even see what I was writing and I asked your kind help.
No doubt you have done and still do a sacred and faithful work and thanks to you I am here and you give me strength and power in such a remarkable way in this insane battle.
I hug you all a huge hug and say again thank you thank you thank you from the bottom of my heart!
With great appreciation,
Elinor
(translated by Eran Sadeh)
Weguer schrieb:
Wenns nicht so traurig wär, müsste man über diese groteske Situation wirklich lachen.Währen Eran Sadeh ein Argument nach dem anderen bringt, hat sein Gegenüber nichts anderes auf Lager als: Es ist seit mehr als 4.000 Jahren so, es ist jüdisches Gesetz, es ist Elternrecht.
Weguer schrieb:
Währen Eran Sadeh ein Argument nach dem anderen bringt, hat sein Gegenüber nichts anderes auf Lager als: Es ist seit mehr als 4.000 Jahren so, es ist jüdisches Gesetz, es ist Elternrecht.
Maria Werner schrieb:
Der fängt schon an mit: "I'm not a doctor, I'm professor."
Guy schrieb:
Klar Professor ist doch die Steigerung von Dr. Oder?
Maria Werner schrieb:
Die Behauptung, überall dort, wo Beschneidung aufgegeben worden war, sei das Judentum als solches verschwunden, halte ich für gewagt.
Interessant ist auch, dass Prof. Jacobovici sagt, man bezeichne "andere" nicht als Barbaren, sondern als "Unbeschnittene"
The Jewish Circumcision Resource Center represents Jews around the world who question circumcision and choose not to circumcise their sons.
An Israeli religious court has fined a woman for refusing to circumcise her infant son. The matter is part of an ongoing divorce case. In Israel, religious courts have authority over various family matters like marriage, divorce, and child welfare. Circumcision is viewed as a requirement among religious Jews. Israel has struggled for generations to reconcile its religious and secular traditions.
The woman has said that she does not wish to harm her son. Circumcision has been shown to result in physical, sexual, and psychological harm.
As the caretaker and mother, she has the right to forgo circumcision like thousands of other Israeli parents. No civil law requires circumcision in Israel. When parents disagree, as in this instance, the default position is to let the child decide about circumcision when he is older.
She appealed the case to the Israeli Supreme Court, a civil court, which issued a temporary injunction (restraining order), freezing the rabbinical court’s decree. The father’s response is due in the Supreme Court on January 2, 2014.
We urge you to sign this petition to ask the Israeli Supreme Court to issue its final ruling in favor of this mother’s right to protect her son.
"Rabbis to court: Uncircumcised boy will suffer 'serious psychological damage’"
R2D2 schrieb:
haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.567832"Rabbis to court: Uncircumcised boy will suffer 'serious psychological damage’"
Attorney Rabbi Shimon Yaakobi schrieb:
'"Children have a right not to have their religion changed without their knowledge. Since they are still incapable of forming an opinion, it is the role of the state to protect their right not to have their religion changed, and to protect them from attempts of this kind.
In that case, the children were born and brought up as Jews. In their family and their natural environment they are surrounded by Jews. The children did not express any desire to join the mother’s sect.
"The minor child who is the object of this affair was born to a normal Jewish-Israeli family,” he wrote. “In their natural surroundings the couple and their children are surrounded by Jews who perform circumcisions on their sons. In a year or two the minor will attend a nursery school where he will be surrounded by children who were circumcised, and it is no secret that toddlers are capable of noticing anything unusual, and enough said."
werner schrieb:
In their natural surroundings
Failure to circumcise one's Jewish infant son will cause the child emotional harm by way of ostracizing him from his Jewish peers, ....
werner schrieb:
Ein früherer Fall, in dem eine Mutter mit dem Kind zum Christentum übertreten wollte, wurde vom Rabbi zitiert:
Attorney Rabbi Shimon Yaakobi schrieb:
'"Children have a right not to have their religion changed without their knowledge.
HAARETZAttorney General Yehuda Weinstein urged the High Court of Justice on Tuesday to overturn a rabbinical court ruling ordering a woman to circumcise her son.
In a brief submitted to the High Court, Weinstein said the rabbinical court had “exceeded its authority.” Moreover, he added, “it’s doubtful that the rabbinical court’s decision was based on the principle of the child’s welfare.”
The case arose out of divorce proceedings between the woman, known as Elinor, and her estranged husband. During those proceedings, conducted in the Netanya Rabbinical Court, the husband, angry over Elinor’s refusal to circumcise their son, asked the court to order her to do so.
The rabbinical court sided with the father, saying that circumcision is a religious obligation. It also ruled that for every day on which Elinor refused to circumcise her son, she would be fined 500 shekels ($142) for contempt of court. This decision was subsequently upheld by the Rabbinical Court of Appeals, which added that circumcision would also benefit the child: He will want to integrate into the society of which he is part, and in a country where most of the population is Jewish, most boys are circumcised.
In December, Elinor appealed this decision to the High Court. Via attorneys Marcella Wolfe and Avigdor Feldman, she argued that forcing her to circumcise her son constituted religious coercion and violated her right to freedom from religion. Her attorneys also raised technical arguments about whether the rabbinical court had the authority to issue such an order.
The High Court issued an interim injunction freeing her of the need to pay the fine while the case was being heard, and an expanded panel of justices is due to hear the main case on February 25.
she “started reading about what actually happens in circumcision, and I realized that I couldn’t do that to my son."
Klar Professor ist doch die Steigerung von Dr. Oder?
Selbstbestimmung schrieb:
Nein, das eine hat mit dem anderen nichts zu tun.